#silverstripe IRC Log

IRC log for 10 February 2013

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75: [10:52:00] <instabil> bonjour
76: [10:53:00] <instabil> is there any way to solve this, without access to the php.ini file?
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78: [10:53:00] <instabil> i just tried to install ss on my webspace, but get a "date.timezone option in php.ini must be set correctly." failure
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80: [11:09:00] <instabil> oh
81: [11:09:00] <instabil> i found it on silverstripe.org
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98: [16:38:00] <l8s> i have extended LeftAndMain and created a tabset with two tabs
99: [16:38:00] <l8s> on this tabs i will display two different forms
100: [16:39:00] <l8s> but how do i create buttons for each form
101: [16:40:00] <l8s> i know how to create buttons which are displayed on both tabs, but how do i add actions that are on one tab but not on the other?
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109: [18:54:00] <simon_w> l8s, you need to use two separate forms, not just two separate tabs
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147: [21:48:00] <nexflo> is there something like http://www.advancedcustomfields.com for Silverstripe? or whats the easiest way to create truly modular pages?
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151: [21:57:00] <Pyromanik> nexflo: you don't.
152: [21:58:00] <Pyromanik> Sure you could build it, but I've tried that in the past, and it's messy.
153: [21:58:00] <Pyromanik> Probably one of the only times I'll ever say this, but Silverstripe probably isn't the tool you're looking for.
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155: [21:59:00] <Pyromanik> I'm not a big fan of C5, but it does this particular function quite well I think.
156: [21:59:00] <Pyromanik> you're probably looking for something like Concrete5
157: [22:00:00] <Pyromanik> Just whatever you do, don't use wordpress, it's full of terrible.
158: [22:01:00] <Pyromanik> I just
159: [22:01:00] <nexflo> yeah...hehe...i know...i wanted something clean and extentable in backend as well...and silverstripe just seems so super crispy clean...especially as framework as well...
160: [22:01:00] <Pyromanik> it is
161: [22:01:00] <Pyromanik> building that kind of functionality kinda defeats SS being 'the developers CMS'
162: [22:01:00] <nexflo> on contao right now..which is great in frontend...but extentability wise not so smooth either
163: [22:01:00] <simon_w> It's not set up to have lots of little content areas
164: [22:02:00] <nexflo> taking a deeper look into c5 right now
165: [22:02:00] <Pyromanik> I've tried it in the past, and while it works, the interfaces for doing such are kinda not so great. Coupled with creating a bunch of classes for your little 'content blocks'... you start thinking "WHY!?"
166: [22:03:00] <Pyromanik> because instead of semi re-defining a bunch of things that already exist so you can apply them to a 'page' dynamically you start to think about just why don't I put these straight into the model
167: [22:03:00] <Pyromanik> at all
168: [22:03:00] <Pyromanik> the whole content blocks thing isn't user friendly.
169: [22:03:00] <nexflo> thats what i thought..u could do it with holder-pages and stuff..just isnt really end user friendly
170: [22:04:00] <Pyromanik> making the majority of it redundant
171: [22:04:00] <Pyromanik> yeah
172: [22:04:00] <Pyromanik> if you make a homepage
173: [22:04:00] <Pyromanik> you add all your blocks and press save
174: [22:04:00] <Pyromanik> most of the blocks are the same as each other with minute little presentational differences
175: [22:04:00] <nexflo> well depends what kind of pages you are building i guess
176: [22:05:00] <Pyromanik> and then it's much easier and cleaner to define your homepage in code
177: [22:05:00] <Pyromanik> espeically if you don't want clients derping up your pages
178: [22:05:00] <Pyromanik> Plus SS isn't really set up for selectively applying templates
179: [22:05:00] <Pyromanik> and the badness of the (code) design will irk you
180: [22:06:00] <Pyromanik> just follow the SS design philosophy, it's much easier.
181: [22:06:00] <Pyromanik> so you have to re-code or re-define/subclass a model should you want to present it differently in the frontend
182: [22:06:00] <Pyromanik> and cleaner.
183: [22:07:00] <Pyromanik> I did build a module to facilitate all this, but I never released it because it was just rubbish.
184: [22:07:00] <nexflo> cheers pyro, think i will take a look at C5 or another alternative for this one
185: [22:12:00] <nexflo> yup, c5 looked exactly what i needed, cheers!
186: [22:13:00] <Pyromanik> so I hear.
187: [22:13:00] <Pyromanik> It's not as 'clean' as SS, but is also quite flexible.
188: [22:13:00] <Pyromanik> Never used it past installing to have a look.
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191: [22:49:00] <spronk> god
192: [22:49:00] <spronk> i'm not the only one :p
193: [22:49:00] <spronk> see
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202: [23:46:00] <simon_w> So, not much going on today
203: [23:47:00] <Colin[pi]> simon_w: aren't you travelling here soon?
204: [23:47:00] <simon_w> Something like that
205: [23:48:00] <Colin[pi]> I still intend on buying you a sprite
206: [23:51:00] <simon_w> And I've got no idea on what I'm actually going to be doing
207: [23:51:00] <Colin[pi]> It's Canberra, so your choices are limited to what I can count with one hand :D
208: [23:53:00] <irogue> *do with one hand
209: [23:53:00] <irogue> ;)
210: [23:53:00] <Colin[pi]> that too
211: [23:53:00] <Colin[pi]> it's how we keep warm in winter
212: [23:53:00] <irogue> Colin[pi]'s hand is the sole source of entertainment in canberra
213: [23:54:00] <Colin[pi]> yes
214: [23:54:00] <Colin[pi]> it's quite famous
215: [23:59:00] <irogue> http://www.tradesnswaps.co.nz/about-us
216: [23:59:00] <irogue> wow
217: [23:59:00] <simon_w> Now I'm slightly worried :p
218: [23:59:00] <Colin[pi]> I'll be gentle

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